Beshear

I mean beshear is still lying here because you can't go from A&B&C&D=X to B=X while being truthful

I've gone from really liking Beshear to really fucking hating Beshear in like 3 months

I've gone from really like Beshear to really fucking hating Beshear in like 3 months

I hear what you’re saying and agree. What Beshear is telling democrats who lose all the goddamn time is you don’t have to bite on every micro aggression park demonstration that comes along. It opens the door to endless clips of them hemming and hawing when the Sunday shows dissects them for sport

bsky.app/profile/roth... I like that he immediately rules out compromising on moral stances, but like, who is this speech for? Who is he trying to convince?

You know what, it's unfair for me to call Beshear soft. He has walked the walk, vetoed anti-trans legislation in KENTUCKY, and defended it without equivocation. That's great! I should say IN THIS INSTANCE, he is failing rhetorically and helping the right politically by unnecessarily punching left.

Beshear thinks he can alienate the left of the Democratic Party and make it up with Centrist and Republican votes. In Kentucky that is probably true. But, nationwide it lowers democratic voter turnout like 2024 We can't afford to go after voters. Even if we can and should call candidates to task.

So fucking tired of everyone trying to awkwardly jerry-rig their own couture Sister Souljah moment, it’s so transparent and embarrassing.

I give Andy a lot of slack for being mostly decent but also being the only statewide KY D so idek

I think that's fair, yeah! Success in Kentucky doesn't mean success nationwide. His messaging has gained him fans, but it can't guarantee enough to sell him to a federal office. At least not as his own and not right now.

I love how you have to do a research project to find out who even talks like this and the answer is…Andy Beshear. Classic

Meanwhile we have dipshits like Beshear unironically thinking "talk like a person" is a good left-punching slogan for the party

Andy Beshear is undoubtedly the first person in the world to use that phrase

It's too late! The phrase has broken containment and Beshear has tied it to Democrats irrevocably! We'll never win anything!

Part of the issue that he has is that he has dealt with Republican supermajorities in the legislature for the entirety of his time as governor so the accomplishments that he can hang his hat on are things like legalized sports gambling, medical marijuana pilot, and vetoing some bills

I wonder if he just absorbs it ambiently from there? I confess I have no idea what Kentucky is like but I presume it's more conservative and that means just more Fox News stuff percolating, so he may think this is how he adjusts to the national stage for that reason. I dunno though!

Yeah but that's Newsom, a motherfucker that reeks of ambition to the point of desperation If Beshear starts podcasting with Bannon I'll take the L, but even then I'm also in the "Beshear is not Him camp"

I think to some extent he knows he is going to be pidgin holed in to the right flank of the primary and is probably just rolling with it

I am very much inclined to let Beshear cook, if anyone has proven that he knows what it takes to win red states as a Democrat it's him

Again, ever since he launched his podcast his brain has begun to rot.

i don't even think beshear is a bad governor, a bad person, or a bad politician, but i do think he — and a lot of other dems — are getting bad advice from bad people. portland would be ground-zero for hearing this kind of thing, and we just don't, most of the time, and never from electeds.

He doesn’t have the juice for the national stage. If this campaign is the path for him being a Dem Senator of Kentucky after he is termed out of governor, I’m all for it.

I used to go to bat for him as a succesful southern Democrat, especially since he always vetos anti trans bills. It seems like he's getting some bad consultant advice while he's gearing up for a Presidential run or something