Dealerships and subprime auto lending

Manuals are an Endangered Species......

Nothing beats the joy of having your GM vehicle become a permanent fixture at the service department, all thanks to those delightful recalls.

Nice colour! I love my pick up but I'm finding it harder to park! Thinking about a subaru crostrek as a second vehicle. 🤷‍♂️

Had to buy a cheap car last week. Found about 1000 cars in Ontario within my search parameters. When I added “manual transmission” result dropped to less than 20. Managed to find an early Crosstrek w 5spd. The automatic transmission was the beginning of the downfall of mankind.

had a bluetooth ODB2 scanner lying around (amazon sent me one out of nowhere when i ordered some licorice. idfk) so now i know i have some ABS sensors I need to service/replace. Gotta replace an interior door handle or two. STILL dont know why the radio drops memory.

I won’t even tell a salesman my name until I’ve 100% decided I want to buy the car. What are you, a cop?

Hey my 1990 Chevy cavalier came with AM _and_ FM radio. My fancy schmancy electric car doesn’t even get AM radio.

Quarter million dollars and it can be yours

Yeah, my husband sold it and switched to a small car that got 24 mpg.

I forgot how much those things actually do resemble Escapes. For some reason I thought they were so much longer and more Lamborghini-looking.

Personally I want to know if he can see over the dashboard. Does he need a booster seat? And if so, does a special mechanism exist for him to operate the pedals?

If my vehicle is super dirty, I prewash with the bucket and brush or I go through the soft touch wash. No way the touchless can get all that dirt off.

So much yes. No TV in the middle of the dashboard. Just an old school head unit and those little cassette tape aux things.

life at the intersection of "extremely rewarding to drive" and "an utter nightmare to work on"

That’s excessive. My first car ever had a zero to sixty time of eleven minutes. Use caution.

GMC. Greedy Motor Company.

I called Ford corporate and and demanded an alternative when I lived in Gunnison. The dealership sent me home with a tool left on top of my engine, forgot to replace the oil when doing the oil change on a coworkers car, and then somehow dropped someone’s car off the lift. All within a few weeks.

because it's used cars only and i frankly don't know if i trust the previous owner to have treated it well

HYC1000s CCS2 or MCS? I think "only CCS2" (for BYD? 😂), because apparently there is no properly space for trucks/semis.

The press loan of that car I had had more miles on it than that

I used to rebuild autoparts. We'll manage. If it wasn't for junk yards, I wouldn't have had a car when I was young.

Don't forget the drastic drop in maintenance costs.

My family sold cars for fifty years and this is spot-on. In some cases, used car profits are even higher than new cars.

Sorry to hear that, hopefully you have some good memories of it. I had to give up on a 245 turbo that had no floor left.

When I bought my Boxster my priority was the best condition and history for the money. I was happy that the one that met those conditions also had twists and not the meh base 986 wheels.

Virtually all aspects of the car industry are inhumane and corrupt because it is almost entirely comprised of males- from manufacturing, assembly, and sales to repairs.

Worked for an OEM and got to do things like data analysis to find which dealers were so racist it was a violation of fair lending laws.

I have and always will be a mini truck dude... love those old Mazdas, Datsuns and Toyotas. And the paint jobs are fire.

Yup, it makes zero freaking sense to me how this isnt talked about more often. This is just one of the many reasons I've never had my license, no way was interacting w/ a car dealer ever after that.

Honestly? The best discovery tool for me has been car rental. I've run across makes and models that I never even considered before experiencing them.

By comparison, my dad bought a custom Ford F-150 pickup in 1978 with weird choices. IIRC, it came with no rear bumper and no back seat. He welded his own (superior?) bumper and ... never got around to building or installing a back seat. But you could order it and get what you wanted.

I think the offer was only for a Forester.

Nissan dealer told me it's corporate policy not to have customers order a car with exact features they want. Whatever they decided to produce & whatever the dealer has on hand is what you can get. You want baseline model? Nope. They're always going to tack on packages like $300 floor mats.

His phone conversations with dealers reveal the absolute lunacy. "I'm willing to pay you cash today for the price you state on your website" Dealer "No, in person is the only way we can sell you this car" How dealerships get away with false advertising at minimum is something I don't understand.

Back in the 1960s Ford introduced a dealer business model known as Service Absorption & widely copied. The service dept had to make enough revenue to cover the entire business overhead. If you didn't sell a car you were still in business. Great when cars came in every 3000miles for a service.

Can confirm. Dealerships are all inhabited by red pilled, fox news watching, Rush Limbaugh listening (or whoever the pod God is this month now), lying, grifters. I have tried to work at dealerships twice in my life. The culture is awful if you aren't a true believer. They're all aware of the grift.

There was no state level regulation for that sort of thing? Illinois has (weak, but existing) regulations on that.

Chiropractor and car dealership pipeline

Just did this. Wasn’t in the mood to deal with the sharks. Tried what my dad used to do. Walked in, said I want that car and I’m paying this, not a dime more. It fucking worked.

I used an autobroker for my last car and I will now never go to a dealership

There are influencer car salesmen who post vertical videos about getting a great deal for customers or whatever that I can't see without barking like a dog

Car dealerships have got to be one of the most consistently hated cohorts. I would pay a decent bit to never interact with them.

You have to go through dealers for a new car. You can't just order it on the internet like literally everything else.