Separation of church and state

I have two family members who spent their entire career in the government. Got very high up. Retired very young, etc Both of them turned out to be evangelicals. Were not raised that way. Utterly hate the government by the way. Even though they owe their very lives and livelihood to the government.

I mean, the right of a public school employee to host a prayer circle for the football team he coached, made up of kids who want to stay in the team and keep the coach happy is sacrosanct! But I'm not allowed to host a peyote party to Coyote for the kids in the end zone or stands.

They are desperately trying to divide cohesion in societies to implement this

Si las sectas evangélicas no estuvieran metastatizando en medio mundo, incluida España, por mí como si se montasen un Battle Royale en EE.UU. con los mormones, los Amish, los menonitas y cualquier otra troupe de trastornados fundamentalistas.

16. ...Jesus is pro-choice. 17. Conservatives are full of shit, and they fucking know it. They know they suck, which is why they're doing everything and anything to win ASIDE from governing. 18. We should all stop acting like they have valid points to begin with. /FIN

Yes because religion forces people to think in absolute terms and never question god which doesn't leave the mind open to other possibilities.

The same people who wailed about employers being asked to accommodate Muslims' obligation to pray during the work day.

they love the crusader shit because it provides a little ~legitimacy~ to being turbo racist, same reason the KKK adopts much of the same symbology and ritual

Administrations love religion because the rules are arbitrary and support the logic of morality of authority. Those in charge get to make the rules.

Meanwhile we read of public servants being bombarded with Christian nationalist propaganda.

To say nothing of the devoted following of the Evangelicals. The worst people in the world.

A church which is infected (and dependent of the government

Feels like an inversion of the very worthy goal of separation of church and state. The state shouldn't be religious, but you can't really expect something like religion to not effect politics as long as it remains so important a part of so many people's identities.

They want to force MORE than “just” prayer upon us. They want, and are GETTING, Sharia Law, “Christian” style.

We need to rid this country of Christian nationalism!

People can show a devotion to their state or form of government, even devotion without question. They can do the same with a sports team or a celebrity. This does not mean they can't also be atheists. God-like does not equal God (a supreme creator of the universe).

All of those dicks need to lose any church-related tax benefits.

What’s the tax rate on properties owned by churches in this country?

one of the doctrinal problems here that is sort of just implicit in the jurisprudence (and might be genuinely hard to solve, tbf) is that any speech restriction or religious burden is evaluated the same whether it's a licensure condition like in Chiles or an actual criminal ban

Need fifteen minute breaks to pray in private? Cool, that’s worth making a normal accommodation! Want to pray the gay away, violating all known ethical guidelines of your profession and licensing rules? Nope, rot in hell, find another job, you suck, eat my ass

Nor do I. I respect anyone who speaks back to politicians drunk with power. In the name of peace and human dignity. I’ve left organized religion, with so many inconsistencies and justifications for evil behavior. The personal faith path is better.

Two things the “sacred bible”never once mentions.. see John Fuglesang & The Separation of church & hate

For all their talk of "religious freedom", I notice that Wired article makes no mention of government departments catering to Muslim, Jewish, or Hindu employees.

Religion is a business. And an evil one at that.

Can you edit this headline to say Christian rather than the generic “religion”?

Religion by nature is a divisive force. Its objective has always been subjugation of its adherents. It set them aside so they feel special. Within this confine the greater humanity suffers.

Yeah, we're a bit different about that in the US, especially in the South. A lot of southeastern states are even more vocal w/ their religion talk than Texas.

And again, did you hate Dr Martin Luther King because of him always taking scripture? How about President Jimmy Carter-you must have hated him also, yes? Both the type of Christians right in the center of your bigotry Venn diagram!

No you arw making that up in your head because I said I dont like or trust christian leaders because they have let me down over the past 8 -12 years, because if their support for trump. I dont hate them I just cant trust them because too many port their dogma before their oath.

I think they are both good people. I don’t hear him talking about posting the 10 Commandments in schools, in fact he’s against it. Keep in mind that not all Christians are Christian nationalists. We should all be glad of that.

And that is exactly what he says. Leaders are allowed to be religious.

Religion has no place in politics That's it end if conversation. I'm not talking about what the voters do in their spare time.

If you want to know his stance on his religion and the separation of church and state, here it is in his own words. (He wholeheartedly supports the separation and finds it necessary, and refuses to push his religion onto others.)

Rafael Warnock has an M.Div., too. So do I, for that matter. Are we to be precluded from running for office?

Afraid we're going to see more of Democrats responding to the Heritage Foundation's Christian Nationalist push by talking up what faith means to them instead of talking about why the separation of church and state is part of the foundation of the US government.

Yes, separation of church and state is mandatory. Are you simply judging him unfit for office because he belongs to a religion? Politicians are not allowed to believe in god? Maybe we might want to look at their views about the mess we are in to decide who gets our votes. (Ms Crockett is a baptist)

He's very adamant about separation of church and state. You're being a bigot.

It's an issue because so many of us have been abused by religion that we don't want anyone religious representing us. EVER.

He says he too is for separation of church and state. Not every religious person wants to push that religion on others.

Senator Warnock is literally a Baptist pastor. Or is being religious only a problem when the candidate is White?

Maybe so, but it is in direct contradiction to your claim that he doesn't use religion in his politics. The big takeaway from the colbert interview was how he could deflate Maga by pointing out the religious hypocracy, but the hypocracy is the point with Maga.

I think they're talking about his being religious as a selling point, like just claiming religion is a bonus point for a politician for some strange reason

Can the Christian Nationalist thing and label it for what it represents. Theocratic Fascism. Where does all of this end,?

America has collectively forgotten the point of religion isn't turf wars, it's a framework for how to be a better person

Yes, indeed! I believe one can be a person of faith, but they should not parade it around and use it as a ploy in a political platform. To me, doing so makes it and them suspect and a way to garner votes. Whatever faith one believes in, keep it to yourself if you're running for political office.

Atheist here: He rose to prominence fighting a Tx bill to mandate displaying the 10 commandments in schools. He is, obv, a Christian, but advocates for freedom of (and from) religion in public and governmental spaces. Watch some of his videos, read up on him a bit - you'll likely be impressed!

You realize he literally advocated for upholding seperation of church and state, right? This honestly just looks like you're attacking him for being religious.

As a non-religious, functional agnostic, I think I can say just because someone has religion as a focus in their lives, doesn't disqualify them from being in the govt. The people who wrote about separation of church and state were deeply religious. Having it and pushing it on others is very diff.

So because he's religious, he doesn't believe in separation between church and state? DO YOU REALIZE HOW DUMB YOU HAVE TO BE TO THINK THAT WAY???

This is SO f-g sick having YT "Christian" Nationalists raising brown, black, Latino kids, erasing their familial and cultural identity. Having the very people who cheered for mass deportation of your family raise you. That is NEXT LEVEL EVIL!

JKK didn't preach every time he spoke and neither did Carter he showed his beliefs in his actions. He didn't need to preach

the same argument was used against John Kennedy being a Catholic when he ran for president. Jimmy Carter was a practicing Christian.

That's the cult of jebus worshippers for you...

Mister Rodgers's ministry was his show, literally and intentionally. "Won't you be my neighbor?" was him living his faith. We should ask no less faithfulness from every religious person in public office.

Exactly, no political party should be pushing a religion. And no religious sect should be preaching politics

Historically over 750,000,000 people have been killed in the name of religion. "Believe in my God or I will kill you"!

Religion and Prayer....

I call it gaslighting culture. We have normalized accepting lies and fail to hold people accountable in an effort to remain non confrontational.

The USA exists because the early settlers wouldn't stand for that.

See Islam

It’s doing what Florida politics does best: weaponizing faith for outrage, while pretending it’s about principle. Education shouldn’t be a privilege handed out based on creed. But clearly, in some circles,

>We don't have to share the same beliefs in order to respect each other. Yes, Republicans and Evangelicals, two groups who definitely strive to respect other people's beliefs.

And conversely, because religion is often used solely as a means of political control.

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those lines are getting blurred..

Watch the documentary "bad faith" on TUBI. It sheds light on how we got here. DECADES in the planning

I think this is the biggest hypocrisy they elected a person who is everything religion preaches against

They can only win by deception and violence. This Motown-inspired women’s group tells us we have to Rise Above them. youtu.be/eXp3TOAx_uc?...

Seems pretty basic.

Not more than two minutes before reading this, I blocked a lunatic religious trumpanzee on Facebook. The usual, "Tain't no such thing as evolution!" rant.

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